This discussion is with Dr. Andrea Davis, she is an Associate Professor at York University,Toronto in the Department of Humanities and the Academic Convenor of the 2023 Congress of the Federation for the Humanities and Social Sciences. She teaches and supervises in literatures and cultures of the Black Americas and holds cross-appointments in the graduate programs in English; Interdisciplinary Studies; Gender, Feminist and Women’s Studies; as well as Social and Political Thought. In this discussion, we discuss her book Horizon, Sea, Sound: Caribbean and African Women's Cultural Critiques of Nation where she employs the tropes of horizon, sea, and sound as a critique of nation-state discourses and formation, including multicultural citizenship, racial capitalism, settler colonialism and the hierarchical nuclear family.